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MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 6:57 JST #20394

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Before I begin, allow me to explain what YaFS is.

YaFS is a Forum Software, developed by Blaveloper (you might remember him, right?), which looks like AcmlmBoard 2.x on the outside, but actually is YaBS 2.x on the inside.
Since I've created YaBS (Blog Software), I know exactly how YaFS works, in terms of Code.
At the moment, YaFS is in its early Beta Stages, and it's currently been Piloted at UltimatePisman.
The Pilot will be over, once YaFS becomes stable enough for production.

Why do I want this?
IP.Board is quite a heavy package, but that's the least of a problem.
The biggest problem will be, to Upgrade to IP.Board 4.0.
I already had a fatal problem, when Upgrading to IP.Board 3.0, so now with IP.Board 4.0 being so close, I already fair the Upgrade will fail again.

Also, the longer DSHack.org stays at IP.Board, the Buggier it becomes, I noticed.

Besides that, since YaFS is heavily based on the YaBS 2.0.2 Codebase, I know YaFS' Code by heart already, making it very easy to me, to fix problems, and to add/remove functionality people want or don't want.

What about Name Colours? ShoutBox? Wiki? uBox? Hack Store? Etc.?
YaFS already has an Uploader, which is identical to the one, used in YaBS.
ShoutBox and Name Colours are officially planned for YaFS 1.1, and as for the Hack Store and Wiki, I can replicate them easily.

And how about the Data? Remember what happened with DSHack.org, when going to ABXD?
Unlike ABXD, I know exactly how YaFS works.
Everything can easily be Ported, using a single PHP Script.
However, only Hack Store Content need to be moved by hand, since IP.Downloads stores all its Files in some weird Formats.

So, raise your "Yes" Hands to agree, your "No" Hands to disagree, or neither of those, if you have a Question.
If you have a Question, now is the time.
It's better to be save, than sorry.

However, after this Poll, I'll also ask non-Staffs, if they agree or disagree, just to be as Democratic as possible, this time.

Szymmy_Saurus.cia
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 7:00 JST #20395

GRAWR :3

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Tomix
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 8:18 JST #20396

MKDS Kart Connoisseur

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What happened when you updated IP.Board to 3.0?

 

I'll need to wait until i see more features in YaFS. No offense, but that theme is really bad. :v


Gericom
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 15:38 JST #20398

Feature-Length Nut Expansion Pak

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No. I would rather stay on ip board. With a good backup, it should be possible to upgrade, right?

MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 15:56 JST #20399

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With a good backup, it should be possible to upgrade, right?

What happened when you updated IP.Board to 3.0?

DSHack.org was destroyed, after the Upgrade.
I had to use PHPMyAdmin, to Port User Data, and the MKCW Thread, to a new IP.Board 3.0 Installation.
These were different times, because back then, we didn't lose much.
But now, if the same thing would happen again, we will either end up staying at IP.Board 3.4.7, forever (and get all the security flaws, in the future), or Moving all the Data for at least 6 Months.
In that case, not even a good Backup will help.

I'll need to wait until i see more features in YaFS. No offense, but that theme is really bad. :V

The Theme is the least of the problem, as it isn't even the default one, anyway.
Blavs and I both agree, to not make an IP.Board-clone out of it, but having all the features we use on IP.Board on YaFS, is sure welcoming.

Haruhi Ermiiworth
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 20:13 JST #20400

ERLLUMINATII CONFIRMED

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Yes. I know Geri hates ABXD after all that happened... But the pros are more than the cons so I think YaFS over IPB pls :3


MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 21:46 JST #20403

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Well, ABXD and YaFS have a different history, and different Codebase.
ABXD, BlargBoard, and AB2 were made by/with StapleButter, YaFS at the other hand, was not.

So, it's hard to compare those 3 Boards to YaFS, not counting the similar UI's.

Gericom
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 21:58 JST #20404

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If it would look more like IP Board (the original theme) and not ugly like ABXD and has all features IP Board has, it would be okay. Otherwise: no. (Also, remember the last time you wanted to switch to different forum software...)

Edit: You can also make a copy of the database and try to upgrade it to ip board 4. If it works, everything is fine. Otherwise you can always switch to another forum software.

MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 22:12 JST #20406

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Of course, IP.Board 4.0 will have a different MySQL Structure, like just 3.0 had, or isn't it what you meant?

As for the Theme, I'll let you do that one, as you already did it once, for ABXD.
The CSS for YaBS is almost identical to AcmlmBoard's, by the way, with probably some minor changes.

As for the Features, I have a full confidence we can do that.
My PHP Skills have become amazing, since I started working on YaBS 1.0, back in November 2014.
Back then it took my a few Days, to make a single Feature, but now, I can do it within 30 Minutes (depending on the Feature, of course).

Gericom
Posted 2015年03月17日 - 22:23 JST #20407

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Of course, IP.Board 4.0 will have a different MySQL Structure, like just 3.0 had, or isn't it what you meant?

As for the Theme, I'll let you do that one, as you already did it once, for ABXD.
The CSS for YaBS is almost identical to AcmlmBoard's, by the way, with probably some minor changes.

As for the Features, I have a full confidence we can do that.
My PHP Skills have become amazing, since I started working on YaBS 1.0, back in November 2014.
Back then it took my a few Days, to make a single Feature, but now, I can do it within 30 Minutes (depending on the Feature, of course).

I meant that you might want to try upgrading to ip board 4 with a copy of the site and the database. So you can see if it works or not.

Thanks. As for the forum software maybe we can work all together (if ip board 4 is not possible of course).

Haruhi Ermiiworth
Posted 2015年03月18日 - 4:09 JST #20421

ERLLUMINATII CONFIRMED

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Yeah, that theme Geri made was good (except it looked exactly the same as IPB default). Pls next time make one based on this one...


Gericom
Posted 2015年03月18日 - 5:15 JST #20423

Feature-Length Nut Expansion Pak

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Yeah, that theme Geri made was good (except it looked exactly the same as IPB default). Pls next time make one based on this one...


Maybe I will do both. Remember that I still use the default ipb theme. I like light more than dark.

Solara-Chan
Posted 2015年03月18日 - 5:32 JST #20425

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If we switch, would we only take select things from the hack store over? Or everything? Because if we take everything, we need to download it all, than manually upload it all back.


MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月18日 - 15:23 JST #20443

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My advise is to not do anything yet.
Even if we would agree to switch, we can't do so, until I'm allowed to use YaFS, for production purposes.
Even then, I don't see us switch so soon, because I want to Port stuff like Custom Name Colours, ShoutBox, and Status Updates, before that happens.
So, if you still see Features you want to see in YaFS, say it now.

Besides, I might also find a way around the Hack Store Encryption (if it is an Encryption, at all, lol), so you wouldn't need to Download stuff yourself.
It saves Bandwidth, and time.

MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月22日 - 15:03 JST #20463

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I'm to lazy to make a new Poll, so I simply moved this Thread to General Discussion.
Now it's the Members' time to decide.

SGC
Posted 2015年03月22日 - 15:24 JST #20464



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I'm in on the switch to YaFS on one condition... Nobody and, i mean nobody who was banned here gets unbanned on YaFS , no BlackYoshi, no chillius, no climb. :/


MKGirlism
Posted 2015年03月22日 - 16:00 JST #20465

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Why would we Unban people that got Banned, in the first place?

N64 Arctus
Posted 2015年03月22日 - 21:18 JST #20467



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I'm in on the switch to YaFS on one condition... Nobody and, i mean nobody who was banned here gets unbanned on YaFS , no BlackYoshi, no chillius, no climb. :/

I don't think Chillius really wants to be involved in MKDS hacking anymore, anyway.

 

But back on topic, I'm not really sure what to think about all of this. I'm sort of in between.


Dark Light
Posted 2015年03月22日 - 22:55 JST #20470



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I feel that if you know the code and the in and outs more in YaFS, more then IP Board, then I'd say let's switch to YaFS.

 

BTW, I don't remember which upgrade it is(Might have been 3.0, but the timing of the update definitely screwed American access to the board at the time.


Gericom
Posted 2015年03月22日 - 23:46 JST #20471

Feature-Length Nut Expansion Pak

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@MKGirlism Can I already start making the themes?

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